Lee-Jackson Birthday ceremony Saturday
The Harry Gilmor Camp of the Sons of Confederate Veterans will be holding a ceremony honoring the birthday of Robert E. Lee and Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson Saturday morning at 11 a.m. The ceremony will take place at the Lee-Jackson Memorial at the intersection of Art Museum Drive and Wyman Park Drive across from the Baltimore Museum of Art near the campus of Johns Hopkins University.
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I see treason season started year this year. Amusingly the biggest blowhards about “liberal treason” and other such nonsense are often the biggest proponents of anything Confederate. I guess they are the experts on sedition.
Lincoln should have put Lee and the rest of his merry band up against the wall and given them the only penalty fit for constitutionally defined treason.
Comment by I am so wise — January 17, 2009 @ 11:27 am
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Actually there was nothing treasonist in the actions the southern states took in seceding from the union. The American revolution was, by definition, not a revolution at all. Treason seeks to harm, overthrow, or overtake a government. The seceded states simply voted to depart a Federal government in favor of self-government. If you do a little research before making attacks, you MAY notice a little something about “self government” there in the Declaration of Independence. Lincoln himself at one point stated that any state wishing to leave the union was constitutionally permitted to do so, as did Jefferson AND Washington. It’s called government at the consent of the governed. If the states were treasonist, they would have sought to take over the whole deal; instead, they simply wanted to be rid of Washington (D.C.) altogether, in favor of more decentralized government.
Had the south been guilty of treason, surely they would have been tried for such. But instead, after being held without being charged for over 2 years, Confederate President Davis was set free. The reason? The Supreme Court of the U.S. warned prosecutors that what the southern states had done was protected under the 10th ammendment. The Constitution does not GRANT people and states rights. It RESTRICTS the government. The 10th ammendment gives an open door for the STATES to govern themselves. Nowhere in the Constitution will you find ANY violation which the southern states committed. HOWEVER, I do believe there is a “writ of habeas corpus” (look it up) which IS promised. Now if the constitution were violated? That would be treason. Oh wait…which president suspended THAT right?…
As for whether Baltimore has anything to boast in the matter, it was the sight of the first bloodshed of that war, when angry citezens rioted and fought against an invading federal army. Why were they there? When South Carolina fought back against a then-foreign presence in her harbors, Lincoln called for the states to provide an army. NC, TN, and VA, while previously voting to remain in the union, decided things were out of hand, and left. MD had legislators on the way to make a vote in Annapolis and, chances are, would have seceded as well. Lincoln had the legislature arrested so no vote could be had. Sounds like dictatorship…Especially when under the Geneva Convention (that “liberals” love to tout so much today) when in a territory the majority select representatives to make a decision, that choice becomes rule of law, even if the official vote is cut off by force.
B.T.W., the argument that the confederate battle flag represents slavery doesn’t really fly either. “The confederacy had slavery, so that flag represents the perpetuation of it”…Under this idea, the U.S. flag should also be banned. At the point of the revolutionary war, ALL states had slaves.
“The ‘righteous north’ banned slavery and the south wanted to keep it going”…How did the slave owners get rid of there slaves and manage not to wreck the economic system??…By selling their slaves to people in states where it was not yet outlawed, thereby making THOSE states more dependent on this idiotic and inhumane institution. Slavery was dying out even in the face of this. By 1861, only between 4 and 6% of southerners owned slaves. But the southern states payed over 70% of the federal taxes and recieved less than 30% in federal aid per state. And WHO paid those taxes? Same as today, the majority who are just trying to get by. So when a president comes along who suggests stifling the institution-not by helping it die out, but by taxing the people who don’t even have slaves and certainly cant afford to pay any more taxes- what are they suppose to do? Especially when that President intends to use force on people to force unity.
Only in one army did black and white fight side by side. The Confederate Army. The Northern Army? They put black soldiers into regiments of “colored only” divisions, then sent them to the front so they would die first, saving more time for what they viewed as the “worthwhile soldiers”. Frederick Douglas himself noted that there were many black soldiers fighting for the defense of the South at their OWN FREE WILL. Why? Because they were defending their homeland. (Read the slave narratives)
Granted, the battle flag has been misused by several stupid hate groups that by no means represent the majority of southerners. But it seems to me the fitting reaction would be to lift up the TRUE use of the flag (as a soldiers flag) and beat down the misuse, just as we try to do when our American flag is burned and stomped on by people that don’t like us.
Sir or Madaam, I suggest you do your research a little more next time, before you go making a fool of yourself.
Comment by Shane Long — January 17, 2009 @ 11:41 pm
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I’ll humor you, Mr.”I am so wise”. If you are so wise, perhaps you can provide refer me to any Confederate leader who was convicted of Treason.
Lincoln was a usurper of the Constitution, violated 1st amendment rights of free speech, engaged in illegal searches and seizures, suspended habeas corpus, illegally arrested the Maryland legislature, ignored Supreme Court decisions ad infinitum.
Comment by Terry — January 18, 2009 @ 3:52 pm